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mattj
08-29-2003, 03:14 PM
....yeah, it happens; but generally there's a better chance of watching water freeze in hell.

matt

Kristi
08-29-2003, 03:17 PM
Well, now I've posted once in prose -- and fully intend to pay my dues...even if it takes a while or if I have to wait for a new post to crit.

Kristi

HowardM2
08-29-2003, 03:24 PM
"there's a better chance of watching water freeze in hell."

Your wish is granted:


Thereupon I turn’d,
And saw before and underneath my feet
A lake, whose frozen surface liker seem’d
To glass than water. Not so thick a veil 25
In winter e’er hath Austrian Danube spread
O’er his still course, nor Tanais far remote
Under the chilling sky. Roll’d o’er that mass
Had Tabernich or Pietrapana fallen,
Not e’en its rim had creak’d. As peeps the frog 30
Croaking above the wave, what time in dreams
The village gleaner oft pursues her toil,
So, to where modest shame appears, thus low
Blue pinch’d and shrined in ice the spirits stood,
Moving their teeth in shrill note like the stork. 35
His face each downward held; their mouth the cold,
Their eyes express’d the dolour of their heart.

Dante, Inferno, Canto XXXI

Be careful what you wish for.

mattj
08-29-2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by HowardM2
"there's a better chance of watching water freeze in hell."

Your wish is granted:




wasn't a wish, or even much of a vent. Just what I felt was a fairly innocuous observation. That much inattention to the 3/1 regulation(?) would create all sorts of uproar and adminatrative action in any other forum than prose. That's all that statement was noting.

matt

Kilgore Trout
09-02-2003, 03:05 AM
Mattj,

I think the reciprocity is getting better in the prose forum as of late. I think the regulars do a good job of staying with it, but there are only a small handful of regulars who lurk in the prose section. I, personally, try to post at least one crit before posting a piece. I don't always stay true to that 100%, but I do get in my 3 crits to 1 piece ratio. The prose forum has helped me quite a bit, since it helps me to see the other side of writing.

The other thing I wanted to do was to give you a pat on the back for almost single-handedly keeping that forum moving. Nice Work.

mattj
09-02-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Kilgore Trout
Mattj,

I think the reciprocity is getting better in the prose forum as of late. I think the regulars do a good job of staying with it, but there are only a small handful of regulars who lurk in the prose section.

I'm not craving attention for my own stuff, a long time ago I discovered that in the prose section one is lucky to get any feedback regardless of how much he or she might offer; & that said I've had more recently than I've expected.

Not only that, far be it for me to give a shit what anyone else does or does not do on this site, I guess if I'm ever really disturbed by it, all I need do is delete my bookmark & discontinue my visits to this particular site. None will be any worse off for that.

Also it's not for me to keep track of anyone's crit/to piece ratio, so I'm not checking, however from the amount of time I've spent reading & commenting on stuff in that section it would seem about half the users (& that might be generous) on the front page have offered 3/1, the rest ahve decided 1/1 or 0/1 is acceptable.

Again I stress that I really shouldn't give a rat's ass what anyone else does, but as benignly as possible (& without wishing to antagonize anyone) I feel compelled to ask why only the regulars to that particular forum should have to follow one of the posted rules of the pffa and/or pay any heed whatsoever to a posted sticky at the top of the 1st page.

That's all. Simply voicing my curiosity I 'spose, certainly not expecting an answer.

matt

Harry R
09-02-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by mattj
Again I stress that I really shouldn't give a rat's ass what anyone else does, but as benignly as possible (& without wishing to antagonize anyone) I feel compelled to ask why only the regulars to that particular forum should have to follow one of the posted rules of the pffa and/or pay any heed whatsoever to a posted sticky at the top of the 1st page.


Annoying, isn't it?

I just wanted to say - if you're implying that the post/crit ratio in Prose is uniquely ignored by the mods, I don't think that's true. Basically, all the non-critical forums are pretty lax, and even the critical ones we only really point it out to people on an as-we-notice-it basis. We don't keep detailed records.

If, say, I noticed that someone had posted four or five poems to Love without critting at all, I would menton it, but if they were commenting on a 1/1 or 1/2 basis I might not bother even if I noticed.

Feel free to drop gentle hints to people in Prose if you want.

Harry

mattj
09-02-2003, 11:26 PM
Nope Harry, that was not my implication, although your response does shed some light. I was implying that the rules of the pffa & Scavella's unambiguous sticky were being ignored (either uniquely or ununiquely) by @ least half the users of that forum. I always considered the 3/1 rule a pretty 'make sense' rule, & being the naive person I am thought it applied to all the forums on the pffa where one posted their attempts @ creative outlet. That's all.

As far as gentle hints? Perhaps when someone who asked for c&c but never bothered with offering it, well I think I may have pointed that out gently, but I'm now of the mind set that it shouldn't matter to me what anyone does here, & I feel it's not my place to hint gently or otherwise.

Thanx for responding though.

matt

Originally posted by Harry R
Annoying, isn't it?

I just wanted to say - if you're implying that the post/crit ratio in Prose is uniquely ignored by the mods, I don't think that's true. Basically, all the non-critical forums are pretty lax, and even the critical ones we only really point it out to people on an as-we-notice-it basis. We don't keep detailed records.

If, say, I noticed that someone had posted four or five poems to Love without critting at all, I would menton it, but if they were commenting on a 1/1 or 1/2 basis I might not bother even if I noticed.

Feel free to drop gentle hints to people in Prose if you want.

Harry

Harry R
09-02-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by mattj
I always considered the 3/1 rule a pretty 'make sense' rule, & being the naive person I am thought it applied to all the forums on the pffa where one posted their attempts @ creative outlet. That's all.

Oh, it does apply, or at least it should. I'm just saying that most of the time, we leave it to people's own consciences. We did go through a phase of actually doing post counts and making an effort to chase people up, but it took up a lot of our time and just made the board feel even more like a strictly-run primary school.

Harry

Lupin
09-03-2003, 07:16 AM
I feel your pain, Matt.

Sigh. I wish there were a Prose Free-for-all.

We can dream, no?

arthur_henry
09-04-2003, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by Lupin
I feel your pain, Matt.

Sigh. I wish there were a Prose Free-for-all.

We can dream, no?

Alternatively, you could check out zoetrope.com

There, they require 5 crits for every story posted (and you have to view the thread longer than 10 mins before you can post a review). It's a lot bigger community too, which I suppose has its advantages and disadvantages.

Also visit EveryAuthor.com, our new site for prose, featuring online books and writer's forums including fiction writer's forums and non-fiction forums