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kitsch
08-27-2004, 03:29 PM
i'm new here. im a refugee from eliteskills.com. looking forward to new adjustments. this place seems like a happy boot camp. i was a girl guide once. i hope it helps me out.

cheers,

kitsch.

AdinaJ
08-27-2004, 04:55 PM
31 and counting. Welcome to PFFA. Adjustment is right. Here is Elite Skills' advice:

Quick Tips to Improve your Writing
------------------------------------>

1. Write More! Read The works of others!
2. Use rhetorical devices like metaphors and allusions. Don't just
state your emotions bluntly, give a metaphor or parable to what it's like.
3. Show action! The water dragged him down to his death. Zzzz,,...__
No! The voracious tide weighted his legs with indifference to his pathetic
struggling.
4. When characters speak use mannerisms, reaction actions, facial expressions,
eye contacts, etc.
5. Don't rely on shock value. (ex. The blood dripped down my throat or wrists
as I flashed the cold blade.) It's been done. Ah, depressed teen poetry.
6. Go for emotional appeal! The better you can relate with the audience
(connections!) the more the reader is likely to enjoy your writing.
Try not to act like your trying to get sympathy or pity from the reader.

(C) Elite Skills


And here is PFFA's:

http://www.everypoet.org/pffa/forumdisplay.php?forumid=34

And here:

http://www.everypoet.org/pffa/showthread.php?threadid=11135&poems

And here:

http://www.everypoet.org/pffa/faq.html

HowardM2
08-27-2004, 05:05 PM
You'll further need to adjust to the fact PFFA is a workshop where such comments as this one you made in a thread in the "GC&C" forum--

some times changing sugar and sweet poetry can change the memories as well and that is when it becomes more about the audience than it does about the subject matter--

won't cut it here, where the focus is exclusively on the craft of poetry and what makes the poem better, not on the effect of such changes on the writer (and whether or not his/her memories are changed--an entirely irrelevant concern).


Howard

kitsch
08-27-2004, 07:45 PM
yes, i am well surrounded by the rules and regulations here and it is not just a minor adjustment- it feels more like a regiment to change the way i think. granted, that is what all good writing does, but no one is a master the first shot around. noted above me is an excerpt from a comment i made. i said what i saw. correct me if i wrong, and i'm sure you will, but you can't take that away from me. don't want me. delete me. learning is a process, not a simple task of reading carefully crafted links. anyone can be a monkey.

kitsch.

Scavella
08-27-2004, 09:35 PM
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(Trans.: Except that what a monkey produces will be nonsense, like the above.)

You were a whole lot closer to the truth when you said "this place looks like a happy boot camp". Yep. Rules and regulations, no duh.

If you stick it out, your poetry will improve tremendously, and you will understand why I laughed out loud when I read
3. Show action! The water dragged him down to his death. Zzzz,,...__
No! The voracious tide weighted his legs with indifference to his pathetic struggling.
and why I know that the first version was far, far better.

Cheers.

Scavella
mod

kitsch
08-27-2004, 10:52 PM
scavella,

point understood. though, my poetry will improve the way this site sees fit. i don't necessarily know if i want that yet. i'll just continuing window shopping for now.

kitsch.

HowardM2
08-27-2004, 10:57 PM
"my poetry will improve the way this site sees fit."

No, your poetry will improve as you choose to improve it, based in part on what you may learn here or elsewhere from a variety of sources. It isn't the site's responsibility to improve your work; it's yours.

kitsch
08-27-2004, 11:04 PM
maybe you're right.

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