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Thread: Hello Poetry Lovers

  1. #1
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    Hello Poetry Lovers

    Pass the Lucent Syrops, Agnes by George Wallace

    So there I was taking a hot shower this morning and I found myself thinking about Bullwinkle’s Corner. Those of a certain generation will recall that the Corner was a 60-90 second feature within the “Rocky and Bullwinkle” show during which the intrepid Bullwinkle J. Moose would attempt to read or recite a famous poem, only to be interrupted by comic mayhem of one sort or another. Bullwinkle can be seen here, his book of verse in hand, sporting a tasteful morning coat and string tie, leaning all nonchalant on his Greco-roman podium, surrounded by the trappings of culture: a green curtain and a large potted plant.



    What struck me -- apart from the steamy droplets falling from the showerhead, ho ho -- was this: Bullwinkle’s Corner mocked the convention of the public poetry reading as civic occasion and therefore assumes the audience is familiar with those conventions. Moreover, it assumes that its audience of early-1960s children already knows most of the poems. There is a presumed familiarity with the material and the cultural milieu that would make no sense today.

    Checking a list of the works presented by the majestic moose reveals a larger percentage of nursery rhymes than I had at first recalled -- which we will assume were still a familiar part of the standard American childhood at the time. But the list also features a hefty proportion of Serious Verse: hefty helpings of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (The Village Blacksmith, The Children’s Hour, Excelsior), Robert Louis Stevenson (My Shadow, Where Go the Boats), Edgar Allan Poe (The Raven, of course), John Greenleaf Whittier (Barefoot Boy (with cheeks of tan)) and William [no middle name] Wordsworth (The Daffodils, for picking which without a license the antlered aesthete is incarcerated). Who, creating a cartoon today, would expect any audience familiarity with such things? Nobody, that’s who.

    Which brings us to the oft-remarked disappearance of poetry from public consciousness. Over the course of 40 years, poetry has declined from being a sufficiently common experience that it could be the subject of jokes in a cartoon to being essentially invisible in the popular sphere. Some of the particular poems and poets in the Bullwinkle canon have faded from view because their homespun sentiment or thumpy thumpy meters just aren’t fashionable anymore. Others have no doubt been given the boot because they are seen as part of the Dead White Male conspiracy that Dominated Our Culture With Its [insert derogatory sociopolitical descriptor here] Values for Too Long. Longfellow in particular has been sent down repeatedly on both charges, neither of which is necessarily fair to him.

    Another explanation, it seems, can be seen in the fact that even Bullwinkle had to turn back to the 19th Century for his material. Copyright issues aside, the quantity of 20th Century verse that is memorably recitable and readily familiar to the ordinary television viewer is limited at best. And the public evidence of poetry has declined steadily from there. Poets themselves have been a part of the problem: actually conveying a recognizable meaning, let alone doing it in a manner that might be remotely pleasurable to the reader, has become almost a mark of shame. To be taken seriously among the avant-garde, it helps not to be understood at all. Coincidentally, Joan Houlihan has just put up one of her irregular but reliably interesting commentaries at Web Del Sol, laying into the practitioners of post-post poetry. A snippet:
    But one must ask: why is this being said? What is the purpose of these words? Why are they printed in a journal someone paid to produce, for someone else to pay to read instead of being spoken by a stroke victim in a rest home? Who is the intended reader? If it is a slice of something, what is it a slice of?
    The objection here is not difficulty: the world is full of difficult poems in difficult forms that are nonetheless worthwhile (if not readily recitable by a moose). No, the objection is that the difficulty of the post-post poem is itself an illusion. The poem is not a puzzle in which the challenge is to find the substance or meaning disguised by the appearance of drivel. The poem simply is drivel. Or maybe, as Houlihan suggests, the form has devolved to become not the Next Big Thing but the Last Big Thing:
    Such poems are as inevitable as old age and its unstoppable deterioration of language. The avant-avant-garde as displayed by much of the work in [the journals under consideration] is, in fact, indistinguishable from the early stages of dementia. And really, what could be more avant-garde, more against-the-grain, more anti-tradition, more post-post than dementia? Perhaps this is the dawning of the New Senility, the next new thing, so daringly close to death itself, this intentional discarding of connections—synapse to synapse, word to word, person to person—any word, any order, anytime.
    Not, I fear, a very appetizing prospect. At least not to this particular Fool.
    http://declarationsandexclusions.typ..._and_squirrel/

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    All good points, David. Bullwinkle's "Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam" still kills me.

    But if the world is dismissing poetry as we know it, I'd argue that poetry is turning a deaf ear to the giant cosmic joke in its midst--rap. Yes, you can argue it's mostly (or even all) dunderheaded melodrama, forced rhythms and nursery school caliber rhymes, but a couple of things are striking about it:

    One, it isn't just enduringly popular--we're now 25 years past Rapper's Delight--it's a huge business. Wordsworth never had album sales like these guys. And Yeats never had a clothing line (though I still have high hopes for increasing PFFA Fukyu mug sales).

    Two, it's shocking how many teenagers are able to recite from memory long runs of their favorite rap songs. You might hate what they're spewing, but at least it's a reasonably impressive exercise in recitation. And personally, I'm amazed at how many kids are more than willing to stand up and "freestyle" rap--scatting with words--without hesitation. Do I think what they're firing off is uniformly abysmal? Yes. But it's still an appetite for words and words alone. It's just not going in a direction that anyone who enjoys, well, poetry, would like it to go.

    Three, enthusiasm for rap and hip hop culture continues to drive spoken word performances. Unlike swing dancing and other fad casualties, bars are still able to draw crowds for decent and horrid spoken word performers alike. There's even a market for open-mic spoken word nights.

    So, no, I'm not expecting poetry as we know it to ever jump anywhere near the forefront of mass culture ever again. But in some ways, it's still the early days of millions of kids yammering lyrics--I don't know how much quality work came out of the first 25 years after sagas caught fire with Norse kids. Maybe something new and valuable will emerge from the junk.

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    Thanks,Sefton,

    Here's some more readings that you might find interesting:


    Seamus Heaney praises Eminem

    American rap star Eminem has been praised by leading poet Seamus Heaney for his "verbal energy".
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/3033614.stm

    The prince, the poet and the rapper
    http://www.eamonn.com/archives/001053.html

    Holden Caulfield Syndrome by Mark Mordue
    Mark Mordue gets caught up in an American disease.
    http://www.12gauge.com/books_2003_mordue_catcher.html

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    David,

    Thank you for this reminder, the moose, that moose!

    I'll spend some more time with your links before I say more.

    Ahh, the moose.

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